2017 Herder “Winning” Goal

Updated: April 2, 2017

Newfoundland Senior Hockey has seen its share of controversy in the past.  The 2017 Herder Memorial Championship between the Clarenville Caribous & the Conception Bay CeeBee Stars puts an exclamation mark on the word controversy.

First and foremost, I want to apologize to anyone who has taken offense to my tweet saying that the Cee Bee Stars should hang their heads in shame.  My initial reaction to this was swift and I was disgusted.  I made the tweet in haste and without considering the multitude of things that has to be considered.  I was wrong.  The Cee Bee Stars have no reason to hang their heads in shame.  Neither does the Clarenville Caribous.  For anyone who hasn’t made a mistake or said something in haste – you can continue to hate on me – for the rest, just take a pill & relax.

Let’s just look at some of the things that have to be considered.

In what has been one of the more entertaining series in recent history, the CeeBee Stars won with what would appear on a goal that should have been disallowed.  As the Cee Bees Kenny King tosses the puck towards the Caribous net.  The puck appears to have slid under the side of the net and is counted as a goal.

The goal was captured and displayed in the following tweet:


A frame-by-frame picture has been created from this video and it is very apparent that the puck does slide under the side of the net.



As some people quickly pointed out, this was not either of the teams’ fault.  There is no video replay in the league.   Human error is part of the game.  It is just extremely disappointing to see such a great series end in controversy, especially given the state of senior hockey at the moment.

As another person pointed out – this is what happens when HNL does not put its best referees on the ice.  How do we determine who are the best referees?  That is something that is very subjective in my opinion.

What about video replay?  It’s no secret that teams in Newfoundland Senior Hockey are struggling financially.  Do we force teams to install cameras so that video replay on goals is a reality?  Is that a road we want to go down for what is amateur hockey?

Some have questioned whether there can be a protest by the Caribous.  However, this is a goal and it is entirely the referees discretion as to whether to allow a goal.  There will likely be no protest and no review by Hockey Newfoundland and Labrador.

This all raises a much larger question.  What will happen in the off-season?  Will the Central West Senior Hockey League survive?  We saw earlier in the season the Gander Flyers almost fold.  We saw the regular season shortened and a great playoffs heading into the Herder.  If there is no league, what will happen to the Herder?

What’s your comments about this goal? the future of senior hockey in Newfoundland?  Drop your comments below in the comment box.

Barry Wheeler
Newfoundland Hockey Talk


  1. Bryan

    April 3, 2017 at 12:58 am

    You can see that the goal wasn’t a goal at all, and should be disallowed and another game be played to determine who should hold the herder cup
    The coaches here in Nl are taught integrity and to practice it while coaching the next generation of hockey players here in NL
    Now I like to see HNL do the right thing and show integrity and not allow this to continue and disqualify this so called goal and have another period played as if it was a tie game in OT
    That’s the least it can do make this bad situation right , it’s only a game but let’s play it fairly as we teach our kids to do

  2. Laura

    April 3, 2017 at 2:01 am

    It has been known that Ian Hollett (the referee who aloud the goal) is far from “the best”. Throughout the regular season and in playoffs in the AESHL he is known for his “mistakes”. Hollett has also shown to be a referee who very rarely consults with his fellow officials. When the puck was in the net the carribous immediately went to speak to him. Shouldn’t he at least have spoken to the other referee or even the linesman on the ice?

    After the goal was allowed, Mahoney from the caribous attempted to illustrate to Hollett how much space was in fact between the ice and the bottom of the net, but once again he was ignored. If the shaft of a stick can fit no problem then 99% of the time a puck will also fit.

    HNL needs to do something about the calibre of the referees in Newfoundland hockey. It has been known for many years now that the refereeing is turning fans from hockey.

  3. Rodney Snow

    April 3, 2017 at 9:33 am

    make it right or this will kill senior hockey in clarenville and maybe in newfoundland next year

  4. Bill Bailey

    April 3, 2017 at 1:16 pm

    In order for a “goal” to have been scored in Hockey, the puck is required to fully cross the “Goal Line” between both posts. Neither the Referee or Linesmen saw this happen. They only reacted when the so called scorer raised his stick in a “fake celebration” knowing quite well it went in under to side of the net. I saw it quite clearly happen. For the Ref to actually say he “saw it go in” is a bare faced lie. And then, to not even go to the net himself and see if he could slide the puck under the side was downright disgracefully for hockey fans. And, to not even permit any discussion about it except to point to centre ice for the faceoff was absolutely ridiculous. NO, THE CEE BEES DID NOT WIN THE HERDER, IT WAS AWARDED TO THEM. And, they should hang their heads in shame. The so called goal scorer knows quite well what he did. How can “he” hold that trophy high in celebration. The game should be replayed with HNL paying the bill for the various players to be flown back to the Province to participate. For that matter, have it played at Mile One.

  5. John

    April 3, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    Yes I can see why the clarenville fans wouldn’t be up set this weekend ,if I was a caribou fans I would be letting the newfoundland senior hockey know the officals that drop the puck in the 1st period should keep their eyes open for the full 60 min and not fall asleep…I think the official should not be aloud to ref another game in the senior hockey league again………. good luck clarenville and hold your head high …

  6. Craig

    April 4, 2017 at 6:03 am

    The very person who should be ashamed of himself is this so called Soc character. What a disgusting way to express himself on this site, not to mention his inability to spell. I recall several years ago when Hockey Nova Scotia ordered a minor hockey league game to be replayed due to referee error. The error involved a play when the goalie crossed the red line at one point. The entire game was replayed. I guess if an organization can order a game replayed for such a minor offence, why can’t this terrible situation be rectified?

    • NL Hockey Talk

      April 4, 2017 at 8:18 am

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  7. Sports Fan

    April 4, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    The Herder is important to the few people and communities directly involved. The rest of the province could care less. Neither team competed with their hometown boys anyway! Right back to the 50’s when the Harbour Grace mafia brought players in from Buchans and Bisops Falls players were paid. They are still paid (cash in an envelope, family vacation etc). Next time around sell a few more 50/50 tickets and rent a video review system. In the meantime, leave the poor young Referee’s name out of the story. The Herder might mean the world to you but chances are he’s gone back to his family and his job like the rest of us and doesn’t need the negative attention.

  8. Mike

    April 6, 2017 at 12:47 am

    Even though it is clearly shown in the video that the puck went under the net, the referee is no position to see how the puck entered the net. Not sure where the others were. So he should have consulted with them before making the final call. It’s a shame for a game to end that way. Also if the player, who scored the goal, had any sense of integrity should have came clean. Oh well, it says a lot about a person’s character.

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