Allan Cup Streaming Online-Question for Organizers
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superfan
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rick wrote:See ye all at da Allan cup . dont care about who is broadcasting or selling 50/50 .. Should be some great Hockey to watch .
... and as always, it will be a pleasure having you as a guest
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McCoys0077
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Hi silverhawk. Thanks for your responses. For such an important tournament, and to help grow Senior hockey across the country, it does not make sense to not allow anyone outside of Newfoundland to not see the tournament...and more importantly, your beautiful province. So I'm glad to hear the committee is still looking at such options.
The audio broadcast of all games would be great...not as good as video but it would be appreciated.
We will be visiting Nfld in the summer for the first time and we've already made plans to stop at the arena in Clarenville (hopefully to see pictures of a victorious Dundas Real McCoys team:)) but more importantly,again, to see your province.
Just can't convince my wife and kids to visit in the colder month of April. Haha
Heck, even having ads on your broadcast can only help tourism. Hope that video can still be considered...if not I'll be listening to the audio.
I'll keep checking back
The audio broadcast of all games would be great...not as good as video but it would be appreciated.
We will be visiting Nfld in the summer for the first time and we've already made plans to stop at the arena in Clarenville (hopefully to see pictures of a victorious Dundas Real McCoys team:)) but more importantly,again, to see your province.
Just can't convince my wife and kids to visit in the colder month of April. Haha
Heck, even having ads on your broadcast can only help tourism. Hope that video can still be considered...if not I'll be listening to the audio.
I'll keep checking back
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Mr. BoJangles
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I bet the 9 out of 34 has a lot of pull on that committeeSilverhawk wrote:grandfalls_station wrote:Host committee has members from Caribous involved. They have to as the Bous are the ones who started going to Allan Cup and decided to host it. There is a hosting committee but with involvement from the Caribous organization . Maybe not the team but some of the same people are involved. Cats are not making anything from broadcast. They are not a radio station or tv station. So why charge an organization for trying to provide coverage for people who can't travel, shut in hospital, and run by volunteers. The fans are the only ones suffering. So why not let the fans view the Cats games. Is it because the Cats use a community partner Bell Aliant who provide free access.. Is this the issue.
9 people connected to the caribous out of 34 person committee.
Yup.. bous are callin all the shots..
As I just posted in the "Allan Cup" section...
Just a couple of quick points.
Eastlink has NOTHING to do with any broadcasting related decisions of the Allan Cup in Clarenville. In fact, a proposal was received from Eastlink to broadcast the games, and we simply did not accept the proposal.
Hosting the Allan Cup is a huge undertaking, with tremendous financial risk for the partners - Town and Caribous. The two major revenue sources are sponsorship and ticket sales. On the ticket sales side, it's made of a combination of advance package sales and the tournament time walk up traffic. We know here in Clarenville from experience this past year, our game day sales drop significantly when games are broadcast. As such, the decision was made not to broadcast the Allan Cup games, as the ticket sales are a MASSIVE peice of the $325,000 + event budget.
YES...the same situation (and reasoning) as Dundas last year.
As mentioned countless times previously - when decision was made couple months ago - we will not be doing live video broadcasting. However, we are certainly open to any audio broadcasting - radio, web, etc.
Just a couple of quick points.
Eastlink has NOTHING to do with any broadcasting related decisions of the Allan Cup in Clarenville. In fact, a proposal was received from Eastlink to broadcast the games, and we simply did not accept the proposal.
Hosting the Allan Cup is a huge undertaking, with tremendous financial risk for the partners - Town and Caribous. The two major revenue sources are sponsorship and ticket sales. On the ticket sales side, it's made of a combination of advance package sales and the tournament time walk up traffic. We know here in Clarenville from experience this past year, our game day sales drop significantly when games are broadcast. As such, the decision was made not to broadcast the Allan Cup games, as the ticket sales are a MASSIVE peice of the $325,000 + event budget.
YES...the same situation (and reasoning) as Dundas last year.
As mentioned countless times previously - when decision was made couple months ago - we will not be doing live video broadcasting. However, we are certainly open to any audio broadcasting - radio, web, etc.
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grandfalls_station wrote:Host committee has members from Caribous involved. They have to as the Bous are the ones who started going to Allan Cup and decided to host it. There is a hosting committee but with involvement from the Caribous organization . Maybe not the team but some of the same people are involved. Cats are not making anything from broadcast. They are not a radio station or tv station. So why charge an organization for trying to provide coverage for people who can't travel, shut in hospital, and run by volunteers. The fans are the only ones suffering. So why not let the fans view the Cats games.
Have you ever tried to watch any NHL games ? I have tried several times and some are blocked , why ,wouldn`t have to do with money would it ? I have to pay 200.00 dollars to watch the games ,should a person get to stay in the comfort of their home and watch the games on TV without paying anything for it .. If certain company`s want to carry the games charge them a fee and then they can collect for the coverage ..Not sure but perhaps these game may decide if the bous are to ice a team next year and if not perhaps it is to help them turn a profit ..Ticket sales would help them a lot and what if they do not turn a profit or break even will people from St Johns , Gander GFW or any other place pay their bills then ,,.. Don`t think so , the bous would have to come up with ways to do this themselves..If I want to read about the sports I have to buy a paper .. Good show committee if they want to broadcast the games charge them
No question the HOST team need to try and ensure they sell as many tickets as possible.
I'm not at all convinced that refusing online broadcasting will enhance ticket sales...but...I don't think that's the central issue.
The real problem ties back to Hockey Canada basically ignoring the Allan Cup from a funding level and expecting individual SR AAA teams to co-exist under the burden of almost ALL operational expenses.
These expenses are somewhat part of doing business if\when your simply playing league games or running a mid-week practice session.
But...when you qualify for a Championship level tournament...you team SHOULD BE entitled to a certain amount of respect from Hockey Canada.
This respect should translate into more travel & expense coverage...specifically...into the Allan Cup Host "kitty". That $$$ amount is almost exclusively the challenge of Allan Cup HOST teams. This is very different from ALL OTHER Hockey Canada tournaments where the governing body has cooperate sponsors in place, annually, to help deliver those tournament(s) in a fiscally fair & acceptable manner.
The Allan Cup is the ONLY National Hockey Canada event in which no cooperate sponsor is secured. Hell...they are not...nor have the ever...even CAMPAIGNED to find one for the AC!
That's disgusting...and its also where you folks should be channelling your blame for the lack of online broadcasting in Clarenville.
Just last week...the entire CIS National Tournament was covered. Early in that tourney...games were online (first class broadcasts, too I might add) and elimination games were on SNET. All the while...the HOST VENUE...was near empty! How does that happen?! Easy...the expenses were already taken care of. Gate money was just gravy. Don't get me wrong...its SAD that tournament wasn't played to far bigger crowds....but...on the other hand...most AC's generate bigger crowds....and still get ZERO help from ANY Sanctioning entities.
Same thing for Telus & RBC Cup's...Hockey Canada puts $$$ into it. Hockey Canada holds hands with their big time brand sponsors...and the respective HOST teams are NEVER on the hook for any tangible expenses.
If the Allan Cup had a corporate sponsor...we'd be able to watch games online. Every year.
As it is....Personally...Im still disappointed in the HOST decisions regarding this. Most folks from out my way...can't justify the travel cost to come to Clarenville. I was expecting this sort of "BLACKOUT" to be implemented...but...it doesn't change my situation.
I'm not at all convinced that refusing online broadcasting will enhance ticket sales...but...I don't think that's the central issue.
The real problem ties back to Hockey Canada basically ignoring the Allan Cup from a funding level and expecting individual SR AAA teams to co-exist under the burden of almost ALL operational expenses.
These expenses are somewhat part of doing business if\when your simply playing league games or running a mid-week practice session.
But...when you qualify for a Championship level tournament...you team SHOULD BE entitled to a certain amount of respect from Hockey Canada.
This respect should translate into more travel & expense coverage...specifically...into the Allan Cup Host "kitty". That $$$ amount is almost exclusively the challenge of Allan Cup HOST teams. This is very different from ALL OTHER Hockey Canada tournaments where the governing body has cooperate sponsors in place, annually, to help deliver those tournament(s) in a fiscally fair & acceptable manner.
The Allan Cup is the ONLY National Hockey Canada event in which no cooperate sponsor is secured. Hell...they are not...nor have the ever...even CAMPAIGNED to find one for the AC!
That's disgusting...and its also where you folks should be channelling your blame for the lack of online broadcasting in Clarenville.
Just last week...the entire CIS National Tournament was covered. Early in that tourney...games were online (first class broadcasts, too I might add) and elimination games were on SNET. All the while...the HOST VENUE...was near empty! How does that happen?! Easy...the expenses were already taken care of. Gate money was just gravy. Don't get me wrong...its SAD that tournament wasn't played to far bigger crowds....but...on the other hand...most AC's generate bigger crowds....and still get ZERO help from ANY Sanctioning entities.
Same thing for Telus & RBC Cup's...Hockey Canada puts $$$ into it. Hockey Canada holds hands with their big time brand sponsors...and the respective HOST teams are NEVER on the hook for any tangible expenses.
If the Allan Cup had a corporate sponsor...we'd be able to watch games online. Every year.
As it is....Personally...Im still disappointed in the HOST decisions regarding this. Most folks from out my way...can't justify the travel cost to come to Clarenville. I was expecting this sort of "BLACKOUT" to be implemented...but...it doesn't change my situation.
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