123 wrote:Wade wrote:I don't think Hockey Canada ever "made a decision" on the matter and I don't think the person who claimed Hockey Canada "approved" the signings was being completely clear on what that "approval" actually entailed.
The post pertaining to this "approval" doesn't mention any names, documents, specific details or processes.
All he said was "Hockey Canada has already approved our roster".
That...doesn't add up.
It was an extremely vague & suspect thing to say and it seems to me it might have been a way of trying to build some sort of public support for something which was utterly wrong to begin with.
It worked on a few of you.
Hockey Canada doesn't offer a conclusive system to endorse rosters for SR AAA teams nor do they have a specific person given authority to render signings as being "compliant".
What they have...is an online registration system which each team can edit their own rosters from and (I think) view other teams rosters from. Being able to submit a name into this system doesn't make it legal and it doesn't ensure your roster is compliant.
Nor does phoning up your old buddy who volunteers with Hockey Canada.
If The 'Bous ever had any kind of approval...they would be able to show us...something...a letter of endorsement...a documented agreement...a clause in the rulebook...anything!
But they didn't.
And they don't.
Lol...if this is indeed true we have a case of incompetence in its purest and most highest form. However I reread the comments from Caribous Insider (and others) and it leads me to believe the Clarenville Caribous are in compliance with their roster. HOWEVER, if the roster is not compliant...that's another story. How can someone not affiliated with any team know more about the rules than the person that signs the players??? Something wrong with that scenerio and almost a laughing stock.
Is this the post from CI your referring to for your clarity, 123?
"...Catch I havent logged in here for a month or more. Cant believe ur still conversing with this guy.
FYI Wade.......I sign all players for the Caribous. I have been doing this for 8 or 9 years. I actually am responsible for all interaction with HNL for the Caribous. HC does not recongonize the Quebec league and do not take them into consideration when making or inforcing their rules. Before the February deadline I signed two players from that league for the Caribous for the AC. While they are now officially part of the Caribous AC roster, they both continue to play for their club teams in that league which are currently in the middle of their playoffs......."
This post contains two very dramatic statements.
The first issue I have is the statement that Hockey Canada "does not recognize the Quebec League".
This is categorically false.
Hockey Canada amended the rules based on this exact league. Not only did Hockey Canada define the LNAH as a professional league...they did so as per the request of the SR AAA network of teams for the purpose of preventing "paid professionals" from competing for the Allan Cup. This happened in the summer of 2004.
Secondly, the one fleeting fragment of truth to what CI has tried to slide by us is the idea that some unsanctioned organizations could be deemed to be inapplicable to some of Hockey Canada's transfer regulations.
However, professional leagues are actually the farthest thing from meeting this exception criteria.
Why and How? Very simple...Rather than try and target, track and list every single professional league either existing or imminent...Hockey Canada motioned to simply define what a professional league is there-by covering ALL leagues...the NHL, the SEL, the DEL, the LNAH...it goes on & on...and they are all covered under the definition of "professional" even though NONE of them are specifically listed or named anywhere in the rulebook.
Any SR AAA team GM knows this stuff. Its entry level & like I said before its available for the general public to find for themselves.
Thirdly, if CI still wants to try and convince us he had Hockey Canada's permission to go and do something like this...he would need to demonstrate when & what form of permission he was given?
There is no such thing as "word of mouth approval" on such matters.
